Thread: what does "Cacho carbon" mean?

Originally Posted by exxcéntrica

In this case much more so as in Spain the word can be a very friendly wording. (the bad word remains, but the meaning in the different countries can be completely different, just remembering the word "coger" at this point)

Actually, I just remember being awarded a red point for asking for the meaning in this thread. I still don't know.

Careful with this!

Somebody said it was a disgrace...

Oh, my... you got a bad rep for that??... I suppose so did Leslie (his was red until yesterday )

IUS... is there a possibility to clarify (in the forum rules or in a thread)when to give positive or negative rep to a post... or poster? so that we all share the same critiria... Thanks

Originally Posted by vicente
" If you don't like the language then simply leave the thread but you should not try to censor the forum.

Agree with that.
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IUS

I joined this forum through the "Trusted Translators" site. They seem to be a professional and serious group. I did not think for a minute that they would endorse a blog where the language could become offensive. We are dealing with two different languages and therefore different cultures. It is becoming apparent that curse words are friendly terms in Spain and some latin-American countries. In America these kind of terms of endearment are simply not allowed in professional websites.
People have rights, and just like no one is allowed to blow smoke on your face anymore, in the same manner people should expect to open a translation forum endorsed by "Trusted Translators" and allow their children to read it without having to worry about what we call in the US "obscene language". I understand it's a cultural thing. But since we are dealing with two different languages, and many cultures I think we should be sensitive to cultural sensitivities. A warning indicating the use of language, violence, and ***, is posted in the US before showing anything of this nature. There is no way to know which threads to avoid without a warning.

Originally Posted by kellymellars

I joined this forum through the "Trusted Translators" site. They seem to be a professional and serious group.

I think we are, Kelly.

I did not think for a minute that they would endorse a blog where the language could become offensive.

Kelly, I think we should straighten out terms: this is not a blog. This is a translation forum. In a blog you might be able to see almost anything. I am not a follower of blogs.

In a translation we can find all kind of words. And we must not forget, like in this thread, that people who ASK do not know the meaning.

There are some weirdos, too, who post some words or expressions just for fun, but we do not think this happens here very often.

People have rights, and just like no one is allowed to blow smoke on your face anymore, in the same manner people should expect to open a translation forum endorsed by "Trusted Translators" and allow their children to read it without having to worry about what we call in the US "obscene language".

Kelly, smoking is not the issue here.

And then....who will let children read a translation forum??? I think you are missing the point quite drastically: this is a professional translation forum, not an entertainment site for children!

A warning indicating the use of language, violence, and ***, is posted in the US before showing anything of this nature. There is no way to know which threads to avoid without a warning.

Can anybody confirm this? I have no idea, but this does not happen in Spain.

And: if you this this web site should be fit for children: now, who will tell you that they won't , just for fun, open, especially the flagged threads???? And how would one be able to avoid that?

I believe the proposal of the flagging system, which I have doubts about now because of the difficulty of its achievement, was directed at adults. Nobody was talking about children on this web till now.

Originally Posted by exxcéntrica

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I think we are, Kelly.



Kelly, I think we should straighten out terms: this is not a blog. This is a translation forum. In a blog you might be able to see almost anything. I am not a follower of blogs.

In a translation we can find all kind of words. And we must not forget, like in this thread, that people who ASK do not know the meaning.

There are some weirdos, too, who post some words or expressions just for fun, but we do not think this happens here very often.

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Kelly, smoking is not the issue here.

And then....who will let children read a translation forum??? I think you are missing the point quite drastically: this is a professional translation forum, not an entertainment site for children!



Can anybody confirm this? I have no idea, but this does not happen in Spain.

And: if you this this web site should be fit for children: now, who will tell you that they won't , just for fun, open, especially the flagged threads???? And how would one be able to avoid that?

I believe the proposal of the flagging system, which I have doubts about now because of the difficulty of its achievement, was directed at adults. Nobody was talking about children on this web till now.

I've been busy with relatives, will reply tomorrow. In the meantime this is a website you might want to check out. It would give you an idea of how the government view things in the US. It's from the FCC, the Federal Communications Commission. I have also included an exerpt from the website. Kelly

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/obscene.html

FCC; Federal communications commission

Consumer & Governmental Affairs Bureau


Obscene, Indecent, and Profane Broadcasts
Consumer Facts

It’s Against the Law

It is a violation of federal law to air obscene programming at any time. It is also a violation of federal law to air indecent programming or profane language during certain hours. Congress has given the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) the responsibility for administratively enforcing these laws. The FCC may revoke a station license, impose a monetary forfeiture, or issue a warning if a station airs obscene, indecent, or profane material.
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Profane Broadcast Restrictions

The FCC has defined profanity as “including language so grossly offensive to members of the public who actually hear it as to amount to a nuisance.”

Like indecency, profane speech is prohibited on broadcast radio and television between the hours of 6 a.m. and 10 p.m.

My turn...

Lamento amargamente que el hecho de compartir nuestras inquietudes en este foro, un trabajo tan serio y profesional, se vea viciado con argumentos carentes de la más mínima objetividad.

Debo decir que fuí formado en una de las universidades con mayor prestigio e historia en mi país, (para mí, la mejor del mundo entero), y se me enseñó a apreciar el mundo tal cual es, a decir las cosas como son, y, en caso de tener la imperiosa necesidad de realizar imprecaciones, decirlas con todas sus letras. Debo también confesar que en no pocas ocasiones se me ha solicitado por parte de mis alumnos el significado de algunas obscenidades, a lo que no puedo por ética profesional, negarme a dilucidar, pues mucho me desagradaría que alguien hiciera mofa de su poco conocimiento del lenguaje estudiado.

Referente a mi actividad diversa, encuentro ocasiones en las que deben ser dichas las frases tal y como fueron expresadas. No debo (ni puedo) omitir circunstancias de algún hecho presentado ante los diversos jueces, incluso en los asuntos donde son proferidas vulgaridades, deben éstas ser leídas en voz alta dentro del juzgado, frente a Su Señoría, en audiencia pública.

Recuerdo también, dada la educación libre de prejuicios y absurdos, que un buen porcentaje de mis mejores maestros, utilizaban lenguaje soez dentro del aula, y nunca y de ninguna manera, alguien sintió ofendidos sus castos oídos, sino que, por el contrario, tuvimos la oportunidad de apreciar y aprender de la universalidad.

(Hasta aquí me he quedado sin ideas, quizá suene discordante mi comentario, pero espero sirva para hacer patente mi inconformidad con semejantes absurdos. No es, ni ha sido mi intención entrar en polémica con nadie, pero en el dado caso de que alguien tuviera la inquietud de analizar desde perspectivas diferentes algún punto de vista, le pido continuar en el presente hilo.)

Saludos al mundo desde Michoacán, tierra libre de prejuicios y sandeces ideológicas.

S.S. David Huerta.

The FCC only governs public broadcasts, meaning it has NO power over cable television and NO power over the internet. The reasons that cable television is not awash in curse words and naked parts are sponsors. However, there has been an interesting divergence over the past ten years where cable tv has gotten more raunchy AND certain figures have seen it necessary to limit what can be shown or displayed on the air (most famously in the Janet Jackson case...)